SANANDA SPEAKS, CHAPTER 2

[Credi goes to Kathyrn May, PhD] Today is the second day of a new time for Planet Earth. It is a time of change, a time to leave behind old ideas, no matter how precious they may be to you. I regret that I am now in the position of having to revise the religion that was established in my name, but the misinterpretations of my teachings are so rampant that I must set the record straight. Wouldn't you want to do the same if you knew you were misquoted so frequently and so deliberately that it changed the message that had been the work of your heart and soul? It is not a matter of pride for me. It is a matter of Truth. Mother/Father God and I worked with Prime Creator for eons developing the plan for Planet Earth. Our Dream of the Blue Planet was always that she would descend into lower vibrations, to create a heavy, 3D world for humankind to experience with free will. Of course the only way to experience free will is behind the Veil of Forgetfulness, since that is the only way you can feel the separateness from the Universal Laws. Your senses suggest to you that things "happen" independent of one another, and you feel dissociated from the cause and effect dynamic which is so obvious to us in higher dimensions. You see, in higher dimensions, although we have free will, the outcome of every major choice is so apparent and obvious that there is far less latitude. It is easier to foresee the outcome of your actions when the possibilities are laid out before you in vivid color. The fruition of the Dream was to be the day (in cosmic terms, of course) when Terra would rise again to the 5th dimension and beyond, in triumph with her beloved family of humans, animals, plants and other sentient beings rising along with her in a glorious Ascension which would lift the entire cosmos along with her. Yes, it was what we foresaw, and what we expect to see now. Our faith in humankind has not been misplaced. Even though the dark ones slowed the process by creating havoc with the thinking and feelings of the people, humankind has shown the resilience and true nature of the Adamic race - your ability to sense what is fair, right, just and true. You do it with your sturdy hearts and your far-ranging minds, and you also cannot but turn to some form of Faith when you feel yourselves slipping. You are built for flexibility, courage and determination. These are qualities that are such a powerful foundation for your Creativity. You see yourselves as chaotic, unable to control your emotions and your thoughts, at the mercy of your instincts. We see brilliance, lacking only the skilled coaching that will help you raise yourselves to levels of intelligence and command you were created for. This is the purpose of these messages: to help you raise your level of operating in your everyday lives to the point where you will now be able to ascend with your dear Mother Earth in the very near future - and by that we mean weeks or months, not eons. Many of you are ready now, but the promise of Ascension we all made to each other long ago in the Dreaming time was that all would come together to create the most wonderful, joyous uplifting of hearts to carry every one over the threshold into the 5th dimension at the same time. Now, by everyone at once we did not necessarily mean in the same exact moment. You will each make your Shift when you feel ready. Some have been preparing for years, and will sail through on the first wave because they are fully informed of the discipline and elevation needed to make the transition. Others will take a few more weeks or months to acclimate to the idea that their entire lives are going to change, regardless of whether they hang on for dear life to their old familiar ways or not. And of course, the old familiar ways for many are steeped in religious tradition. It has been an area of conflict across the globe - one religion against another, and each claiming to be the One True Word of God. Dear friends, I can tell you now, with complete confidence, that there is no one true religion at this time on Planet Earth. There are many truths and many falsehoods in every religion, from Christianity to Islam, from Buddhism to Hinduism to the tribal belief systems of the most remote forests and mountains (although some of those come close to Truth in their simple acceptance of God in themselves and in every living thing). I hope to do a better job this time of recording my own words for all to read, and to express the lessons directly and simply, as it is your habit of doing now in the 21st Century. I do love to use parables and living examples when I tell of the lessons I wish to pass on to you now, but I will limit my descriptions to the common, everyday events you all experience now, as I did 2,000 years ago. Much has changed, and the descriptions and the language has taken on very different nuances from what it was then. This revision is long overdue. Today, it is possible to write these words with the help of my friend, Kathryn, and to send them out to the world electronically, with the expectation that within a week or two, millions of people will be reading them. This is the reason I ask that no alteration be made to the text, and that translations be authorized personally by me. These ideas are difficult enough to get across without well-meaning reinterpretation or inaccurate translation. With that international, multilingual audience in mind, I will begin with the most basic teachings first, because those are the ones which have been so misunderstood in the old Scriptures. I have chosen to present these teachings after nearly two years of previous messages and conversations with Mother/Father God because I now have the advantage of their words having set the tone for me to follow. In that way, their words provide an important context for offering my simple lessons. Lesson One stated that All is One. All consciousness is connected, therefore all beings are connected to each other and to God. This is true not only for Earth, but also for all the far-flung beings, planets and stars of the Cosmos. All is One. All is God. Now, in Lesson Two I will explain the relationship you have known as The Trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Prime Creator holds the place at the top of the Pyramid, which represents the Trinity. S/he is the Creator of All Creators, the Beginning of all Beginnings and the Source of All. I, Sananda am the Son of Prime Creator. I will now expand that to include my Twin Flame, Lady Nada, who is the other half of my soul, the glaring missing link in the ancient story. Mother/Father God, the Twin Flames and Creators of All Life in the Milky Way Galaxy, combined make up the Holy Spirit. The patriarchal description of the Story of Creation left out the ones who give birth - the Mother who is an essential part of the process, just as she is among humankind. The original tendency to name only the men, their exploits and their strengths, gave an entirely distorted picture of the value of women in the life and governance of the Planet. I will try to begin to right that wrong in these writings. Contrary to the teachings in the Bible, Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute or a fallen woman of any kind. She was a strong and intelligent woman of great dignity. She was my beloved wife and the mother of our children. The degraded depiction of her was the expression of the degradation of women which would last until the present, with some small process being made, mostly in the Western cultures, during the last 120 years or so. Mary Magdalene, heart of my heart, soul of my soul, and Love of my Life, would have been the model for strong and righteous women through all these years. Instead, the group of men who compiled the stories for the Bible three hundred years after my death, made the conscious decision to wipe her existence out of the minds of the people, and for all intents they succeeded. By separating us, and creating a picture of me as a celibate, unattached single man, they told a lie that deprived the people of the truth - that I was a loving and devoted husband and father. It was the beginning of what came to be known as the War of the Sexes. For us, there was no war. There was a strong and intimate equal partnership based on mutual respect and enduring Love which sustained me during my life challenges as much as did the love of my devoted Mother, Father, and my extended family. It was this picture of strength through family love they wished to eradicate, for it is the basis of a culture of happy and independent people. Individuals who form strong, supportive family and community structures are less vulnerable and less dependent on outside resources, like government and religious institutions, and therefore less easily controlled, and less tempted by promises of power or material indulgence. Following the Biblical rewrite of my life, the Big Lie left everyone confused and uncertain about what their primary relationships should be. Relationships between men and women, women and their children, and men and their children were all redefined and distorted. Does being of service to God mean you must be celibate, separate and alienated from the opposite sex? Certainly not. The appeal of a solitary life is strictly a personal choice. Does it mean an attraction to an adult of the same sex puts you at risk for disapproval and punishment from God? Absolutely not. Your choice of lifestyle, in terms of who your intimate partnerships are, has nothing to do with your devotion to God, except in the quality of the Love you share and the Compassion, Kindness and Forgiveness you practice in your interactions with them. Instead of turning to each other for comfort, nurturing and friendship, within the close family relationships that so inspire us to feel the glory and presence of our Loving God, people were asked to turn instead to a priest or minister for forgiveness, guidance and solace. This created a power structure in which the institution of the Church (any church) and its doctrine becomes the authority over the people, and carries the right and responsibility to interpret God's Word and God's Will for the people. This was never God's intention or mine. I suggest the elimination of all religious structures, other than perhaps gathering places where people may share in celebration and fun, in the conscious joy of being in God's loving embrace. I also suggest the elimination of all doctrine, dogma and rules. The only guidelines we need are those included in the simple Lessons I am presenting here, to live in Kindness, Harmony, Love, Forgiveness, Compassion and Joy. Love expands the heart and mind and brings joy to all who experience it. If it does not have that effect, it is not Love; it is something else masquerading as love. God is Love. Prime Creator is Love, and this is our highest example of Unending Love. Mother/Father God are Love, individually and together. This leaves no room for judgment, vindictiveness or blame. God does not punish. Only humans under the influence of dark energies are interested in talking about, thinking about and envisioning punishment and suffering for so-called "sins." God does not even consider such things. I do not teach or encourage such thinking. We know that oppression breeds anger, and tends to create competition and conflict between and among the people. We are confident that, taken out from under the yoke of economic, religious and political slavery, relieved of imposed guilt, shame and resentment, free men and women will begin to experience themselves as the kind and loving race of Creator Beings they are capable of being. Our intention is to show the way to an end to divisiveness, duality, separation and alienation. Its replacement will be Generosity of Spirit, Kindness, Acceptance, Friendship, and Service to Others - all others, and to the Planet which has been your loving Mother. I am Love. I am your Sananda, the one who has given my life in service for the enlightenment of humankind, for all humankind is created in the image of God, and it is my Path to demonstrate and teach the True Way, the way of Love so that every human being may discover that You Are God. You are Light, and you are Love. This is the end of Lesson Two. We are One. Sananda

EERIE PHOTOGRAPH FROM MT KINABALU

I report here on a photo taken at the base of Mt. Kinabalu just after the earthquake of 5.9 magnitude. A group of donors from the Persatuan Komuniti Bugis Sabah (PKBS), had donated some cash and had their group photo taken with the mountain guide, Rizuan Kauhinin, who became a hero when he rescued a Singaporean boy who was badly injured by carrying him down to safety.

In the photos, a dark hand was seen which was a surprise to the group and they had vouched that it was not doctored. The mysterious hand appeared in photos taken by a handphone and a Nikon camera. Indeed it is hard to explain. Can it be the Spirit of Kinabalu or that of one of the victims who died? Prayers for the departed had been made and hope the Souls find their Peace and Way. However, a statement has been made. The interpretation is yours. OR NI TOR FOR

TRAGEDY AT MT. KINABALU FROM EARTHQUAKE, MISHAP IN CHINA FROM SINKING OF CRUISE SHIP AND MERS IN S. KOREA

I interrupt Sanada’s second Lesson to report a tragedy at the top of Mt Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia. An Earthquake of 5.9 hit Ranau, Sabah in the early morning hours of Friday, 5th June but most casualties were the Mountain climbers at Mt. Kinabalu. Up to now, 16 dead were confirmed, among which were 6 Singaporean primary school children and their teacher, from Tanjong Katong Primary, along with an Adventure coach. There could be more sad news, as another 8 school kids and their 2 teachers are still missing.More than a hundred climbers were led to safety in a daring climb down in the night led by their heroic local mountain guides. The usual tracks were blocked by a landslide of rocks and rescuers were unable to climb up. If the brave guides had not led the survivors down, most would have died from below zero night temperatures in the night. The height of Mt Kinabalu is 4,015m (13,435 ft), South East Asia’s highest. The guides did not abandon their charges and are the real heroes in this tragedy. An Australian survivor had no praises for the official rescue team, many of whom had no sense of urgency nor understand the situation. The Malaysian Prime Minister was slow to comment and worse still never even showed his presence, and even left abroad for a “working trip’ while in the China tragedy, the Chinese leader was there to see and help supervise in rescue efforts.

There are a few issues here. Earthquake originating in East Malaysia is very rare, as it is not in The Ring of Fire. This is a warning of disasters to come – earthquakes will occur in areas never known to have one. Devastating Floods will occur in places that never had experienced any. So now every one is vulnerable to natural disasters, no one is ‘safe” by default. The sinking of a ship in China with over 400 dead is another tragedy. A sudden gust of very strong winds toppled the ship which sank within a minute. Although huge efforts were made by Chinese rescuers, it was too late. And S. Korea is in panic mode with MERS infection and now 5 deaths were reported.

As I had mentioned before, this year many Souls will fulfill their Soul contracts. Many, many more to come. They have chosen a very difficult path but their Karma needs to be fulfilled. In fact Karma is being accelerated. Their loved ones must accept their fate/choice. They must get over their pain and sorrow to allow their departed loved ones to leave peacefully. Young Souls who leave will be taken care of and given very special rehabilitation by their Angel Guides. Death as we all know it is not real, as Souls are eternal. Souls evolve, always to a higher experience. I hope the parents who lost their young ones will not blame themselves for allowing their kids to go on the school trip to Mt. Kinabalu. Or that their loved ones had to be in the ill fated ship in the Yangtze. The locals were very enraged when some tourists had, a few weeks earlier, taken naked photos of themselves on top of the sacred Mt. Kinabalu. It was outrageus. For them, the Mountain Spirit Guardian of Mt Kinabalu was angered and hence the earthquake. I tell you, ask the Australian Aborigines what Uluru (Ayers rock) means to them. Some tourists brought rocks from Uluru home as souveneirs and they had nothing but bad luck, so much so that they had to send those rocks/stones back to Uluru. It is Rule Number One that when we enter the jungles or swim in rivers, to say a little prayer to ask permission from the Spirits residing there. I always do that. And when I was in the world famous Mulu Caves of Sarawak, in my meditation, I saw the Guardian Dragon there. It was such a priviledge to be allowed to have a glimpse of the beautiful and majestic Guardian Dragon! Let the Souls in the 3 tragedies find Peace, OR NI TOR FOR.

SANANDA SPEAKS - CHAPTER 1

( All Chapters by Sananda, transcribed by Kathryn May ) As many of you know, we are preparing the release of Prosperity Funds for the good of all humankind as soon as possible, to free all from the grip of economic slavery. There are a few details having to do with the Vatican bankers which need to be ironed out. They are being convinced to give up their hold on the funds to allow them to be distributed. The Pope is presenting them with an offer they can't refuse, and as you know, he has already issued the decree allowing for their arrests, which was given a start date of September 1, 2013. That was done deliberately to give them a few weeks to change their minds voluntarily. It appears that some are beginning to weaken their grip. The Vatican officials have been steeped in centuries of secrecy and absolute financial power over the entire Western world. Most people have no idea of the enormous wealth and the civil edicts which are still in place which give the Church ownership of all the lands which have ever been held by the Crown of England, and all the lands which were allied under the Axis powers, and all the countries of South America which have adopted the beliefs of the Catholic Church. This includes nearly all of Europe and the Western Hemisphere. So, as you may have suspected, the Catholic Church is the most powerful consolidated political force on the planet. By loosening their hold on the bank funds, the protectors of the Treasury are well aware that this would be the end to their personal power, and the end to the myth that the Catholic Church as an institution was ever a well-intended religious order. Of course, there have been many devout and well-meaning Priests, Bishops and lay worshipers, including the current Pope Francis I, but the institution in Rome has always been interested primarily in political and economic power to control the world. This is coming to an end. Many who are not religious in their current lives are unaware of the worldwide implications of how the dissolution of the Catholic Church will affect the lives of everyone on the planet. This is the ultimate inevitability - the complete dismantling of the Church, in all its glory, pomp and wealth. It will also mean the end of the psychological and religious stranglehold it has had on its people. I can hardly emphasize enough the enormous effect this will have on freeing the minds and hearts of the people. It may seem strange to some of you that it is I, the one who came to Earth as Jesus, who am at the forefront of this apparent attack on the religion that was ostensibly established in my name. I assure you that I would not and never have supported the establishment of any large organization which called itself "Christian." I was opposed to the building of great temples; this was an important part of my teachings. Above all, I would never have supported teachings which were designed to enslave the thinking and behavior of any of my students. I, Jesus, Yeshua ben Joseph, was raised a Jew. I practiced the principles and ethics I learned at my parents knees, and never left behind the essence of those teachings, which encouraged a strongly ethical and devout way of life. I was interested in expanding the limits of Judaism to create a practice based in the simple understanding that Love - the Love of Creator and of one's fellow creatures was the only principle needed to live a good life. I taught that turning away from dogma and rote practice of any rules is the first step in turning toward God. You see, in terms of the practice of the day when I lived, I was a radical/libertarian/free thinking agitator. This is the reason why both the powerful hierarchy of the Jewish community and the Romans wanted me eliminated. Any and all other Fundamentalist sects operating in the areas where I was teaching would have been opposed to what I taught as well, for I stood for the freedom of each individual to freely communicate with God, unhampered by any dogmatic human opinions or prejudicial ideas. I taught that there was no need for priests or intermediaries - all human beings are possessed with the innate ability to communicate telepathically with their God, their Angels, and even with their ancestors. Does this sound to you like some airy-fairy New Age extremism? Well, the New Agers have promoted their own misunderstandings as well. Namely, that spirituality is supposed to make you feel good, as an end in itself. I will talk more about that later. Let us concentrate here on the first lesson I have sent to you through Kathryn, who has collaborated with me in the past to write the chapter in her book called, "The Christ You Never As long as those standards are met, we offer them freely to the world. This is a new phenomenon, is it not, your ability to read the "scriptures" as they are being written, in my own words. I will be here soon to affirm these words in person, but it been decided in our Council that some preparation would be very helpful for all of you. Now that our background information is complete, let us begin with the first and most important lesson I will present in these pages. God is Love. I, Sananda, the representation of God, am Love. I speak the words Prime Creator has breathed into my mouth, as I will do faithfully as long as my life as a soul goes on, eternally. God does not punish or pronounce judgments. Free will requires that humans direct their own path to higher learning. There is no hell other than the one you create in your own minds. After each lifetime, you have returned to the higher dimensions where Love is All, where you planned the elements of each life, depending on what you felt you needed or wanted to experience. No other version of “The New Scriptures,” but this one are the words of the Father directly through me. Many of the old “Scriptures” have been reinterpreted or purposely distorted to serve the wishes of those in power, in order to remain in power. We must begin anew. If you wish to quote me, please use these teachings rather than ancient texts. I will speak only in words of encouragement which will serve to enlighten and uplift humankind to rise above the fear, divisiveness and hatred which has been the way of life on Planet Earth for millennia. I do not come to establish a new religion, by any name. I wish to teach The True Way - communication with God and all conscious beings in Love, Compassion, Harmony, Forgiveness and Joy. Any teachings that engender feelings of fear, guilt, separateness from others, superiority over any other living being, or any rift between an individual and their True Being is not the Word of God, and will not be found in my words. There have been beings of darkness inhabiting Planet Earth in the past. They are the ones who created the “Matrix” of financial, political and social control. They are gone, by decree of Prime Creator, and they will not be permitted to return. We are all Galactic beings, with genetic origins from far-flung planets. There are no superior races, and here are no “aliens.” We are all Star Brothers and Sisters. I AM One with God, as you are. WE ARE ONE. This is the lesson I bring to you in Joy and in Unending Love. You are God, as I AM. We cannot be separated, because we are not separate. No physical distance, no idea or belief can keep us apart. We are destined to live in harmony and peace, in absolute Love. So be it. I am Sananda, and I approve this message, with Joy and Hope in my heart.

LET’S SPEED UP THE LESSONS FOR TIME IS RATHER SHORT

Every message I get reminded of Events that may come that will change the World as we know now. But who am I to warn the World? I do not wish to be the one who brings bad news nor be the one who create panic or a fear- mongerer. That is why I have decided to take leave in writing and be more active in my community. As I can not save everyone nor convince the populace, I am letting some one who is bigger than me do the Talking. There is hardly time to waste and I am out of breathe. The Masters that I am in contact with, directly or indirectly, like Babaji, Sai Baba, and others I can’t mention as they are living masters, do not mean anything to those who have no such contacts, yet each of them had the same Message to Humanity. But quoting these Masters may still mean nothing to many as they may not be known to all. Then I got indirect messages from Sananda. I know him as Sananda but many of you know him as Jesus. As my English isn’t that good and I can’t express myself that well, I am letting Sananda speak to all who read my Postings here. Hence I shall take a back seat and only post when the need arises, otherwise it shall be Sananda from the next postings. I shall let him convince you. But a word of warning. Some may find it ridiculous or even offensive. But I am just a messenger. He is the one who is doing the Talking. There is actually no religion. Jesus is not a “Christian” as Buddha is not a “Buddhist”. Taoists only talk about The Tao- The Way, which I am most familiar. And so I shall now take my place where I belong, back to Nature, The Way and I do need more time for Meditation and co -creating a better future at least for my country. My Blessings to all. OR NI TOR FOR.

SATU PENGUMUMAN

Saya akan memberi satu sessi berkenaan dengan buku saya “Escape to the Fifth Dimension” dalam Bahasa Inggeris di tempat dan tarikh saperti berikut

Dijemput kemari beramai-ramai. Terima Kasih.

THE MEANING OF THE MATHEMATICAL PI IN HUMANITY’S FUTURE DECODED

This is probably the most important article of mine. I was given information about the impending ‘Event” that will change Human History forever from my various sources, human, Masters and Angelic. And from my Chinese metaphysical training, I knew that 2015 and/or 2016 will be a very crucial year for Humanity, but am not able to narrow down the possible dates. There are also much information that I needed to iron out or confirm. Each new information I get points out to the ‘Event” but nothing very concrete- the Masters were not willing to divulge more. Then I was given a very cryptic message by The Divine – ‘The mathematical Pi will be very important in terms of Humanity’s future”. For a long time I was troubled by this message because it doesn’t make sense to me at all, meditation on it didn’t bring forth any answers as well. I needed to crack this code but am totally lost. Reading my old Maths textbooks was useless. I knew this needed an esoteric way to decode the hint given to me and not pure Maths. I confess I had to give up. And as always, information will be given to me that will help me crack the puzzle. The answer I got really knocked me out cold, and shivering to my very core. It ties up all other information that was given to me, but the difference is that I derived this from my own method, my own effort and not spoon- fed. Now I shall try to tell you what I discovered, and will try to explain as simple as I possibly can. You know I never like to write long postings and neither do I have to time. This indirectly means this post is very important. So bear with me, here goes.

Look at Table 1, it shows the relationship between the alphabet and numbers. There are many ways to do this, the method I use is from the Hebrew system. Pi is defined as the ratio of the diameter to the circumference of a circle. If diameter is 1, then the circumference must be 3.14, which is value of pi, π. By joining the letters A to M, D to J and F to H, you ill have 3 semi- circles. His represents the Jewish Menora . Now translate these letters to numbers and add them up. You get 22 and 22 divided by 7 is the value of pi. In Fig 1, the word SEVEN is equivalent to 22 (use Table 1). And 22 divided by 7 itself is the value of pi again. Thus 7 is a mystic number and so is pi, π. There are 7 days in a week and we have 7 appertures in the human body- 2 nostrils, 2 ear canals, 1 mouth, 1 anus and 1 urethra (for Male, and Female is 1 vagina). In the Bible, there are the 7 Seals, 7 Vials and 7 trumpats. The Event will affect all humanity. Best way to include all humans is the 12 Zodiac signs. Every human will belong to one of the Zodiac signs. The word Zodiac is equals to 16(Fig 2). And again reducing the number to 1 digit, becomes 7 (again). See the mystical 7 again? This led me to conclude that the value of π needs to have 16 digits to include all of humanity. Mathematically speaking, π is infinity. Good, we re getting closer to Truth. So π is now 3.141592653589793. Look at Fig 3. Now we have to spell out all the 16 digits of π, including the decimal as “point”. This will add up to 315. Reducing to single digit, it is 9. The 9th month is September. So we have identified the important month. As π is 22/7, and we use 24/7 to men 24 hrs every day of the week, thus , the important date is ‘22”. For deciphering which Year, we go back to the all important π. See Fig 4. As π is spelled out as pi, it is then 3+5 = 8. And only 2015 can be reduced to 8. Thus I have derived the important date – 22nd September, 2015. Thank You, Divine!! Rodrigous had been told of the Time and Place but not the Month or Year of a great Meteor fall that will cause devastating consequences. The Time is 2 am, the Place is off the island of Puerto Rico.

Puerto Rico when reduced to numbers using Table 1, we get 3+6+5+5+7+2+5+5+3+2 equals to 28+15 =16=7, again. This is significant, as I had mention 7 is a mystical number (God made the World in 7 days). Two is 7+4+2 = 13. Another very special number is 13. GOD is 7+2+4=13. Jesus had 12 diciples, ie 12+1 = 13.

Now for some Feng Shui lessons, my forte. This year 2015, the West has the very bad Flying Star number 5, which is Death and Destruction. So Puerto Rico, USA is in the West. I tell you, they are in for big time trouble. And September 22nd is a day of the Metal Ox and which also falls on a Year Breaker, bad energy my friends. Ox belongs to the element Earth, which is exhausted by the Metal of that day. So Earth is in big trouble. Now 24th September is the day of Water Rabbit and a Month Breaker with added energy of Destruction. A double whammy and knock out punch! The Event will fall on 22nd September but news report will only trickle out to rest of world by 24th, thus the world will wake up to bad news, OR 24th September is THE Event itself. In the Month of September, Flying Star number 7 flies to central sector, again the number 7 appears, re-enforcing the month of September as being a month to look out for. How to handle this information will be discussed in my next posting. OR NI OR FOR